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Give me your fusion multipliers.
Topic Started: Nov 4 2011, 09:15 PM (1,442 Views)
Nappa
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Here's mine:

Dance - 100x

Potara - 30x
[Rival Boost] - 270x
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Badabing!

Potara>>Dance.
Elder Kaioshin: “Of course. And what’s more, the effect is greater than with Fusion! This has been the trump card treasure of the Kaioshins since long ago.

With the dance Goku wasn't even completely confident that a fusion between himself and Gohan would beat Buutenks even as an SSjin;

Context: Goku asks if he should become a Super Saiyan before merging with the Potara, and Elder Kaioshin advices against it
Elder Kaioshin: “If you’re going to become a Super Saiyan, it’s better to do it after merging. But anyway, even without doing that, you’ll probably be plee~~eenty. The Potara’s power is just that amazing!”

Base hypothetical POTARA fusion between Goku and Gohan>/>>SSjin hypothetical DANCE fusion between Goku and Gohan.
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Mark of the Crimson Dragon

Mine is based on Venom9808 power level video as he has multiplier at bewteen 20x and 25x.
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dance 20x, potara 25x, rival 5x.

those are kind of rough, because i just recently changed my ssj multiplier set, and haven't crunched all the numbers yet, but they should be close enough to what i would come up with.
list of canon sources:

the DB manga, and the Dr. Slump manga as it applies to the crossover during the rra saga.

list of non canon sources:

everything else, regardless of origin, format, or quality.

for those that blindly follow word of god
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Dance 50x, Portara x75, rival x1.35, top 2 fighters x1.35.

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Dance: 50x, Potara: 50x, rival boost: 7x Potara
Edited by Selsiuss, Nov 5 2011, 09:54 AM.
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Transcendent

Dance : x1,000.
Potara : x2,000 / Rival Boost : x1.5.
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Cocoman
Nov 4 2011, 09:43 PM
Potara>>Dance.
Elder Kaioshin: “Of course. And what’s more, the effect is greater than with Fusion! This has been the trump card treasure of the Kaioshins since long ago.

With the dance Goku wasn't even completely confident that a fusion between himself and Gohan would beat Buutenks even as an SSjin;

Context: Goku asks if he should become a Super Saiyan before merging with the Potara, and Elder Kaioshin advices against it
Elder Kaioshin: “If you’re going to become a Super Saiyan, it’s better to do it after merging. But anyway, even without doing that, you’ll probably be plee~~eenty. The Potara’s power is just that amazing!”

Base hypothetical POTARA fusion between Goku and Gohan>/>>SSjin hypothetical DANCE fusion between Goku and Gohan.
That doesn't necessarily mean a humongous gap between the two though. It could be as simple as:

Base Gohu - 1,000
Gotenks-Boo - ~1,000
Base Gokhan - 1,000+*

*Obviously the plus would put him at enough of an advantage to win.
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Potara: 125x
Dance: 96x

Of course, these are flexible when my list gets changed. Basically it's whatever the plot requires :D
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Badabing!

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Nov 5 2011, 12:04 PM
Cocoman
Nov 4 2011, 09:43 PM
Potara>>Dance.
Elder Kaioshin: “Of course. And what’s more, the effect is greater than with Fusion! This has been the trump card treasure of the Kaioshins since long ago.

With the dance Goku wasn't even completely confident that a fusion between himself and Gohan would beat Buutenks even as an SSjin;

Context: Goku asks if he should become a Super Saiyan before merging with the Potara, and Elder Kaioshin advices against it
Elder Kaioshin: “If you’re going to become a Super Saiyan, it’s better to do it after merging. But anyway, even without doing that, you’ll probably be plee~~eenty. The Potara’s power is just that amazing!”

Base hypothetical POTARA fusion between Goku and Gohan>/>>SSjin hypothetical DANCE fusion between Goku and Gohan.
That doesn't necessarily mean a humongous gap between the two though. It could be as simple as:

Base Gohu - 1,000
Gotenks-Boo - ~1,000
Base Gokhan - 1,000+*

*Obviously the plus would put him at enough of an advantage to win.
But Goku suggests that they would need SSjin and this is after Elder Kaioshin tells him that Potara>Fusion dance and then he says that there would a humongous gap between base Gokhan and Buutenks.

Not only that, Goku could easily be referring to SSjin2 and well as SSjin.

IMO that certainly suggests a monstrous difference between Potara and Fusion dance.
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Cocoman
Nov 5 2011, 03:37 PM
Kamikaze Pyro
Nov 5 2011, 12:04 PM
Cocoman
Nov 4 2011, 09:43 PM
Potara>>Dance.
Elder Kaioshin: “Of course. And what’s more, the effect is greater than with Fusion! This has been the trump card treasure of the Kaioshins since long ago.

With the dance Goku wasn't even completely confident that a fusion between himself and Gohan would beat Buutenks even as an SSjin;

Context: Goku asks if he should become a Super Saiyan before merging with the Potara, and Elder Kaioshin advices against it
Elder Kaioshin: “If you’re going to become a Super Saiyan, it’s better to do it after merging. But anyway, even without doing that, you’ll probably be plee~~eenty. The Potara’s power is just that amazing!”

Base hypothetical POTARA fusion between Goku and Gohan>/>>SSjin hypothetical DANCE fusion between Goku and Gohan.
That doesn't necessarily mean a humongous gap between the two though. It could be as simple as:

Base Gohu - 1,000
Gotenks-Boo - ~1,000
Base Gokhan - 1,000+*

*Obviously the plus would put him at enough of an advantage to win.
But Goku suggests that they would need SSjin and this is after Elder Kaioshin tells him that Potara>Fusion dance and then he says that there would a humongous gap between base Gokhan and Buutenks.

Not only that, Goku could easily be referring to SSjin2 and well as SSjin.

IMO that certainly suggests a monstrous difference between Potara and Fusion dance.
Where does he suggest it? I thought he just asked what they should do before or after.
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Badabing!

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Nov 5 2011, 04:22 PM
Cocoman
Nov 5 2011, 03:37 PM
Kamikaze Pyro
Nov 5 2011, 12:04 PM
Cocoman
Nov 4 2011, 09:43 PM
Potara>>Dance.
Elder Kaioshin: “Of course. And what’s more, the effect is greater than with Fusion! This has been the trump card treasure of the Kaioshins since long ago.

With the dance Goku wasn't even completely confident that a fusion between himself and Gohan would beat Buutenks even as an SSjin;

Context: Goku asks if he should become a Super Saiyan before merging with the Potara, and Elder Kaioshin advices against it
Elder Kaioshin: “If you’re going to become a Super Saiyan, it’s better to do it after merging. But anyway, even without doing that, you’ll probably be plee~~eenty. The Potara’s power is just that amazing!”

Base hypothetical POTARA fusion between Goku and Gohan>/>>SSjin hypothetical DANCE fusion between Goku and Gohan.
That doesn't necessarily mean a humongous gap between the two though. It could be as simple as:

Base Gohu - 1,000
Gotenks-Boo - ~1,000
Base Gokhan - 1,000+*

*Obviously the plus would put him at enough of an advantage to win.
But Goku suggests that they would need SSjin and this is after Elder Kaioshin tells him that Potara>Fusion dance and then he says that there would a humongous gap between base Gokhan and Buutenks.

Not only that, Goku could easily be referring to SSjin2 and well as SSjin.

IMO that certainly suggests a monstrous difference between Potara and Fusion dance.
Where does he suggest it? I thought he just asked what they should do before or after.
I think it's suggested that Goku believed that they would need SSjin right off the bat.

IMO that sets a clear line between base Goku and Gohan (fusion dance) and base Goku and Gohan (potara).

I think it's possible that SSjin fusion dance < base potara all things considered because he thinks that they would need SSjin while Elder Kaioshin states that in base they could roflstomp him;

Base potara>>>Buutenks.

SSjin Fusion dance>/>>Buutenks.

Judging from how the SSjin boosts appear to be smaller for fusions, I think it makes this even more likely.
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Cocoman
Nov 5 2011, 04:43 PM
Kamikaze Pyro
Nov 5 2011, 04:22 PM
Cocoman
Nov 5 2011, 03:37 PM
Kamikaze Pyro
Nov 5 2011, 12:04 PM
Cocoman
Nov 4 2011, 09:43 PM
Potara>>Dance.
Elder Kaioshin: “Of course. And what’s more, the effect is greater than with Fusion! This has been the trump card treasure of the Kaioshins since long ago.

With the dance Goku wasn't even completely confident that a fusion between himself and Gohan would beat Buutenks even as an SSjin;

Context: Goku asks if he should become a Super Saiyan before merging with the Potara, and Elder Kaioshin advices against it
Elder Kaioshin: “If you’re going to become a Super Saiyan, it’s better to do it after merging. But anyway, even without doing that, you’ll probably be plee~~eenty. The Potara’s power is just that amazing!”

Base hypothetical POTARA fusion between Goku and Gohan>/>>SSjin hypothetical DANCE fusion between Goku and Gohan.
That doesn't necessarily mean a humongous gap between the two though. It could be as simple as:

Base Gohu - 1,000
Gotenks-Boo - ~1,000
Base Gokhan - 1,000+*

*Obviously the plus would put him at enough of an advantage to win.
But Goku suggests that they would need SSjin and this is after Elder Kaioshin tells him that Potara>Fusion dance and then he says that there would a humongous gap between base Gokhan and Buutenks.

Not only that, Goku could easily be referring to SSjin2 and well as SSjin.

IMO that certainly suggests a monstrous difference between Potara and Fusion dance.
Where does he suggest it? I thought he just asked what they should do before or after.
I think it's suggested that Goku believed that they would need SSjin right off the bat.

IMO that sets a clear line between base Goku and Gohan (fusion dance) and base Goku and Gohan (potara).

I think it's possible that SSjin fusion dance < base potara all things considered because he thinks that they would need SSjin while Elder Kaioshin states that in base they could roflstomp him;

Base potara>>>Buutenks.

SSjin Fusion dance>/>>Buutenks.

Judging from how the SSjin boosts appear to be smaller for fusions, I think it makes this even more likely.
Hm, I'm not sure. All he says is "Should we be Super Saiyan before we use this?" with a curious look on his face, at least in Viz.
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Badabing!

I'm not denying that. It's just the fact that he didn't even consider base as an option while according to Elder Kaioshin their base would destroy Buutenks.
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Nov 6 2011, 01:24 AM
I'm not denying that. It's just the fact that he didn't even consider base as an option while according to Elder Kaioshin their base would destroy Buutenks.
I think he just wondered, "What if we do need Super Saiyan and we can't transform after merging?" I don't think it was him completely outing Base as an option. I don't deny that Potara is superior, but I don't think it's by a giant amount.
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